Mary Sue, what are you? or why the concept of Sue is sexist

adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

Looks like this essay was needed, so I went ahead and did it. Not sure I said everything I wanted to say, but I tried.

So, there’s this girl. She’s tragically orphaned and richer than anyone on the planet. Every guy she meets falls in love with her, but in between torrid romances she rejects them all because she dedicated to what is Pure and Good. She has genius level intellect, Olympic-athelete level athletic ability and incredible good looks. She is consumed by terrible angst, but this only makes guys want her more. She has no superhuman abilities, yet she is more competent than her superhuman friends and defeats superhumans with ease. She has unshakably loyal friends and allies, despite the fact she treats them pretty badly.  They fear and respect her, and defer to her orders. Everyone is obsessed with her, even her enemies are attracted to her. She can plan ahead for anything and she’s generally right with any conclusion she makes. People who defy her are inevitably wrong.

 God, what a Mary Sue.

I just described Batman.

  Wish fulfillment characters have been around since the beginning of time. The good guys tend to win, get the girl and have everything fall into place for them. It’s only when women started doing it that it became a problem.

TV Tropes on the origin of Mary Sue:

The prototypical Mary Sue is an original female character in a fanfic who obviously serves as an idealized version of the author mainly for the purpose of Wish Fulfillment.

Notice the strange emphasis on female here. TV Tropes goes on to say that is took a long time for the male counterpart “Marty Stu” to be used. “Most fanfic writers are girls” is given as the reason. So when women dominate a genre, that means people are on close watch, ready to scorn any wish fulfillment they may engage in. This term could only originate if the default was female.

 In fact, one of the CONTROVERSIES listed on the TV Tropes page is if a male sue is even possible. That’s right, it’s impossible to have an idealizied male character. Men are already the ideal.

 In our culture, male tends to be the default. Women take on the distaff parts. “Him” and “mankind” are what humanity are, “her” and “womankind” are secondary. Yet this isn’t true for Mary Sue as a term. That name was created first. It was a Star Trek fic that coined it and the female desigination was likely a big reason it caught on. This female is name the default to use when describing idealized characters. Marty Stu and Gary Stu are only to be used if you’re discussing men specifically.  Heck, there isn’t even an agreed upon term for them. So the only time female can be default is when discussing a badly written character, someone who is more powerful or important or liked than they should be allowed to be, someone the plot focuses on more than you would like, someone you don’t want to read about. Hmmm.

 What’s really wrong with a thirteen year old girl having a power fantasy, even if it’s badly written?  Who is it hurting? Men have baldly admitted to writing power fantasies and self inserts since the beginning of time. How many nerdy, schlubby guys suddenly become badasses and have hot girls chasing after them in fiction? See: Spiderman- blatant everyman who happens to  stumble across amazing powers and catch the eye of a supermodel.  Mary Sue is considered the worst insult to throw at a character as it renders them worthless. But since when are idealized characters automatically worthless? Aren’t all heroes idealized in some way? Don’t all heroes represent the author in some way? Aren’t these characters supposed to be people we look up to, people who represent human potential, the goodness that we strive for? Fantasy by nature is idealized, even the tragic ones.

 If you look at the TV Tropes page for Mary Sue, it’s ridiculous. You can be a sue for having too many flaws, or not enough, for fixing things or messing things up, for being a hero or a villain. And of course, this is specifically pointed out as a trope related to the Princess and Magical Girl genres- genres aimed towards women are naturally full of Mary Sues.  Magical girls are powerful and heroic and actually flaunt femininity as a good thing. They are a power fantasy designed for girls. So of course, a girl using traditionally feminine traits to dominate and triumph means she’s a sickeningly pure Mary Sue who makes everything go their way. Feminine traits are disdained and look down on, so when the positive feminine traits are prominent, the reader has an aversive reaction. How can a character be so feminine and triumph? She must be unrealistic, she must be badly written, because everyone knows it is impossible to be feminine and powerful.

 Let’s look at what kinds of Mary Sues people will point to. People will claim a female character is a Mary Sue if she is a love interest. Put a female character within a foot of a male character, and people will scream “Mary Sue!” Why does someone falling in love with her make her a Mary Sue? Well, she hasn’t “earned” this awesome dude character’s love. What has she done to show she’s worthy of him? Fans miss the irony that this line of logic makes the male character seem more like the Sue in Question, as he’s apparently so perfect one has work for his coveted love and praise.

  The idea that woman has to “earn” any power, praise, love, or plot prominence is central to Mary Sue.  Men do not have to do this, they are naturally assumed to be powerful, central and loveable. That’s why it’s the first thing thrown at a female character- what has she done to be given the same consideration as a male character? Why is she suddenly usurping a male role? “Mary Sue” is the easiest way to dismiss a character. It sounds bad to say “I don’t like this female character. I don’t like that this woman is powerful. I don’t like it when the plot focuses on her. I don’t like that a character I like has affections for her.”  But “Mary Sue” is a way to say these things without really saying them. It gives you legitimacy.

 If a character is badly written, there’s generally something much more problematic than idealization going on. The plot will be dull and the character will perpetuate harmful stereotypes while other characters act oddly.  For instance, Bella Swan is one of the only characters I’d even begin to classify as a Mary Sue, yet it’s not really her supposed Mary Sue traits that bother me. I don’t mind that she gets what she wants and everyone loves her, that she’s Meyer’s power fantasy. What I actually mind is that Stephenie Meyer has her perpetuate harmful anti-woman stereotypes- women need to be protected, women are shallow, women’s worth rests in desirability. That’s what’s actually harmful about her and worth discussing. I would criticize that rather than even get to the fact Bella got to be “too perfect and powerful”- that’s just a tiny, insignificant thing not worth mentioning in a huge pile of problems.

 And that’s why I don’t call characters Mary Sue anymore. There’s really nothing bad about a power fantasy or wish fulfillment. It’s what’s fiction’s about.  If one of my characters is called a Sue, I’ll proudly say “yep”, because that must mean that she broke out of that box a female character is supposed to be in.  So I’ll go and say it: I love me some Mary Sues.

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9.17.12. fanfiction,

thatjessjohnson:

As someone who does not herself write fan fiction, I still find it a bit funny when professional writers complain about fan fiction writers as if they’re just “lazy” writers.

Leaving aside the arguments of originality and intellectual property that they use to back up this idea AND skipping over the well penned counter arguments of commentary and transformative works, here’s the deep-down secret truth I think they’re missing when they say this stuff:

Messing around with characters and stories can be really, really fun.

Not everyone who writes stories (and this goes for original stories as well) does so with the goal of becoming a published author in mind. I, for instance, don’t fancy myself a writer, but I write sometimes. Because an idea is in my head anyway, might as well type it up and see what it is. Because I want to entertain a friend. Because it’s fun. 

Just like playing a game of basketball in the park can be fun even if you don’t have aspirations of going pro (or so I hear). If that’s your dream, that’s obviously great, but writing can also be a form of play. It can be enjoyed just for the sake of storytelling, like role playing. It doesn’t mean it isn’t work sometimes. Putting one word in front of another can be horrible work. (There goes that “lazy” argument.) It also doesn’t mean that it can’t be emotionally cathartic or deeply personal. Playing is emotionally cathartic. How we play is deeply personal. Humans need play, it’s important for social and mental well-being. Pick up one in any number of self-help books and it’ll tell you that.

I don’t always appreciate the assumption of some Big Kid writers that everyone who writes wants to be just like them. No, not necessarily true, this sandbox is big enough for all of us.

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italianfishy:

arkhane:

Medieval fantasy Avengers:Loki, Hulk, Captain America and Hawkeye.

Art by theDURRRRIAN

Oh my goodness, Hawkeye.

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oftohgodwhat:

saltbay:

Whut: Ficlet: Playtime

love-charlatte:

dw-t:

This popped into my head when I noticed the glasses dangling from Tron’s grip in Winzler’s latest *fans self* little contribution to the Tron fandom …

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Tron tilted his head, bird-like, in the way that Alan’s learned to interpret as rapid…

This is what I saw:

Have I mentioned that you are baaaasically my favorite person

*dying all over again*

(via oftfrustrated)

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samspratt:

For some reason a bunch of folks from PBS came to my studio and interrogated me about pop culture, internet memes, fan art, and tumblr.

Here’s the video they recorded during the interrogation – which also happens to be my very first on-camera interview — pardon the nervousness … the lights were crazy bright.

pbsarts:Fan Art: An Explosion Of Creativity

The fan art community is one of the most creative and active online. Taking pop culture stories and icons as its starting point, the fan community extends those characters into new adventures, unexpected relationships, bizarre remixes, and even as the source material for beautiful art. Limited only by the imagination of the artist, the fan art world is full of surprises and brilliance.

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Preludin Fugue - sneak peek

that-runneth:

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4.23.12. fanfiction,quote,

“ Fanfiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations instead of owned by folk. ”

Henry Jenkins (via awwyeahquotes)

Henry Jenkins is my favorite academic of all time.

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(Source: saved-awwyeahquotes, via elementarymydeardoofus)

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aeropuertoamigo:

tvtropeswillruinyourlife:

One of Us - Neil Gaiman

He writes fanfic. Cthulhu Mythos mostly, he wrote a crossover fic featuring Jeeves and Wooster as well.

He also wrote a story about a boy who was molested and then grew up to be a molester that was based on that Billy Goat’s Gruff story. We read it in English.

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winzler:

kesomon:

winzler:

Here’s a doodle for Stalkingbit who isn’t feeling well. Get better, Bit! ♥

If I can get the creative juices flowing in my brain I might drabble for this. *squints at it* I don’t think this is exactly what you pictured for this doodle, but it’s what came to my mind.
For a programmer to code something is to put a piece of themselves into their work, like any artist. Alan tapped the end of his pencil against his arm, peering at the lines lain out on the screen before him. Gradually, he shifted parts around. Add a descriptor here. Change the wording there. Type out the final directives, each one essential. Not a misplaced hash, nor stray period, nor reversed slash symbol to be found. The final line slotted into place. He removed his hands from the keyboard and sat back, gazing at his reflection in the glass, the code framing his reflection, shining white and blue as though painted in glowing light on his skin.
“Hello Tron,” he said with a satisfied smile, and imagined for a moment that, outlined in code and with his own face, the program seemed to smile back.
wordcount 141. Almost a drabbleandahalf. Feel better, Bit!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!FGJKHJF YOU YOU YOU ARE THE MAGNIFICENCE
Alaaan! I can just see him, all intent, then genuinely pleased because he’s the type of guy who gets satisfaction from getting stuff done. Hhhhh. And how it bleeds through the screen and defines the program… ♥

winzler:

kesomon:

winzler:

Here’s a doodle for Stalkingbit who isn’t feeling well. Get better, Bit! ♥

If I can get the creative juices flowing in my brain I might drabble for this. *squints at it* I don’t think this is exactly what you pictured for this doodle, but it’s what came to my mind.

For a programmer to code something is to put a piece of themselves into their work, like any artist. Alan tapped the end of his pencil against his arm, peering at the lines lain out on the screen before him. Gradually, he shifted parts around. Add a descriptor here. Change the wording there. Type out the final directives, each one essential. Not a misplaced hash, nor stray period, nor reversed slash symbol to be found. The final line slotted into place. He removed his hands from the keyboard and sat back, gazing at his reflection in the glass, the code framing his reflection, shining white and blue as though painted in glowing light on his skin.

“Hello Tron,” he said with a satisfied smile, and imagined for a moment that, outlined in code and with his own face, the program seemed to smile back.

wordcount 141. Almost a drabbleandahalf. Feel better, Bit!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!FGJKHJF YOU YOU YOU ARE THE MAGNIFICENCE

Alaaan! I can just see him, all intent, then genuinely pleased because he’s the type of guy who gets satisfaction from getting stuff done. Hhhhh. And how it bleeds through the screen and defines the program… ♥

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WANT TO SEE YOUR OWN SHERLOCK STORY IN PRINT?

sherlockology:

SHERLOCKOLOGY AND MX PUBLISHING HAVE TEAMED UP IN SUPPORT OF THE UNDERSHAW PRESERVATION TRUST, TO OFFER FANS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR VERY OWN SHERLOCK HOLMES SHORT STORY PUBLISHED IN A BOOK!

WHAT IS THE BOOK?

The upcoming book, ‘Sherlock’s Home: The Empty House’ is to be a collection of short stories and poems centered around the Sherlock Holmes canon characters and for the benefit of the Undershaw Preservation Trust.

The aim is to give aspiring writers with an interest in Sherlock Holmes and Arthur Conan Doyle, the opportunity to see their writing in print, while primarily raising awareness for Undershaw.

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